i called a couple of people i knew at cbs. one person who i met covering the middle east -- i asked him, should i do a? i called jack chancellor at nbc. i said, jack, should i do it? he said yes. it is a hell of a lot better than nbc. jack was a great guy. if you ask what changed my life, that moment, it certainly was that. >> i have a review of douglas brinkley's book on walter cronkite in sunday's "washington post," september 9, 2012, written by robert macneil. another canadian? >> canadian. >> you are still a canadian? >> i am dual citizenship. >> his first paragraph -- for anybody interested in the evolution of broadcasting, this is a tremendous read. tv journalism's most tremendous phenomenon, walter. do you agree? >> absolutely. walter got very tired of being described as the most trusted man in america. he knew he should not be. i say that with affection. but walter exuded accuracy, decency, fairness, and i think that this resonated out there. here is a guy who really was level with you. he was not holding anything back